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--- rough_houseplan [2026/04/28 23:01] – tony
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+====Roofing====
+====Roof Trusses====
+  * How TF are we getting them up there? Winch and a ramp?
-framing
+====second floor framing====
+====trusses again====
+====framing====
   * Here's a [[https://insulationinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/N161-OR-Energy-Code-0425.pdf|link]] for insulation standards in Oregon. Floors R30, walls R21, ceiling R30, Windows U0.27.
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   * interior walls are staggered stud framing to cut down on sound transmission. Easy, no window complications.
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-trusses
+====trusses====
+  * TODO Order the [[trusses]].
+  * TODO Pick a subfloor product. advantech subfloor, $50/sheet, needs fancy glue.
+====concrete foundation====
+  * TODO pick a company
+  * TODO get the plumbing fixed while we're at it.
+====Rough House Plans====
+===Roughest Idea===
+This is our roughest idea, split into two sides, East and West. Tony would be on the West, the shop side. Aline would be on the East, near the shady garden space.
+Unfortunately, this doesn't quite work. We need a long stair, and we don't quite have enough run for our rise and still have decently sized landings.
+{{ :wiki:roughestidea.floor1.jpeg?direct&400 |}}
+{{ :wiki:roughestidea.floor2.jpeg?direct&400 |}}
+===A tiny 4 plex===
+Tony loves this, Aline does not. I think it would give the kiddos future privacy, and US future privacy when they're living at home at the age of 3, 'cause they don't have a choice otherwise. Fucking economy...
+The idea is to have a living and kitchen downstairs, and a bedroom and bathroom upstairs.
+{{ :wiki:4plex.tonylikes.floor1.jpeg?direct&400 |}}
+{{ :wiki:4plex.tonylikes.floor2.jpeg?direct&400 |}}
+===A combined staircase===
+Separate staircases were losing a lot of space, this is a combined staircase. We both hate it. It's not separate enough for potential futures where we might live in one side and rent the other out. It also makes a LOT of hallway space in floor 2. :(
+Note the mud room, very popular with Aline.
+After looking at this where I tried to lower staircase space but it resulted in increased hallway space... We rethought staircases. We need storage. There's tons of storage potential under stairs. More stairs! Less hallway!
+{{ :wiki:joinedstairs.floor1.jpeg?direct&400 |}}
+===old favorite, longwise===
+Aline's idea, this lets us have long stairs with no landings in the middle, but longwise gives us lots of space for landings at top and bottom.
+Tony would be toward the street, Aline would be toward the community.
+We'd have to watch that stairway overlap with the west bedroom?
+Note the bathrooms are on the inside, this gives us windows along the outside over the stairways and hallways. This does mean venting the bathroom is annoying, but if we have roof trusses, we can pretty easily vent that to the outside through the trusses.
+Aline gets their desired bigger bathroom upstairs.
+A door on the kitchen lets us bring groceries in easily.
+A door on the living rooms lets us have a front door on the street, and a nice door into the community near the hot tub area.
+We can put in a nice doorway between the sides (That's the square bit in the middle). I'm a big fan of sliding bookcases.
+This doesn't have a dedicated mud room, but we can put the entrance near the bathrooms along the outside walls and put some shelving/cubbies there for shoes and jackets and such.
+{{ :wiki:longwise.floor1.jpeg?direct&400 |}}
+{{ :wiki:longwise.floor2.jpeg?direct&400 |}}
+===New Favorite, top and bottom floors===
+Our new favorite has ONE staircase, Aline gets the top floor, Tony gets the bottom.
+Some design considerations...
+  * We figured on putting the bedrooms against the driveway as a sound insulator against shop noise.
+  * Aline gets their mud room.
+  * GREAT sound and space isolation.
+  * Less bathrooms
+  * Less complicated framing, especially around the stairs.
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+Floor 1
+{{ :house:floor_1_top_and_bottom.png?nolink&400 |}}
-concrete foundation
+Floor 2
+{{ :house:floor_2_top_and_bottom.png?nolink&400 |}}